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Re: What is CDS? 10 Apr 2012 23:32 #15705

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Hi Pam. I was wondering where a good place is to buy CDS because I want to be sure I get quality CDS from a reliable source.

I truly appreciate your and anyone else's help with this.

Thank you.


John

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Re: What is CDS? 11 Apr 2012 00:22 #15708

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We have a topic with the approved vendors - and it tells you who is selling what - - so if you just see MMS1, that's probably not where you want to go to get CDS - Let me get the link for you.

genesis2forum.org/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=10&id=7515&Itemid=66
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Re: What is CDS? 11 Apr 2012 01:29 #15711

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Thank you Pam. This is wonderful and I'm thrilled about getting started with CDS!

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Re: What is CDS? 11 Apr 2012 21:14 #15734

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On the approved list for CDS IS: www.mmsgreenlife.com

That isn't the same as Project Green Life which I believe is closed, is it?

I just wanted to be sure that Project Green Life didn't open under a different name because I'm not sure about them.

But mmsgreenlife.com is where I'm thinking about ordering CDS from.

Thank you.


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Re: What is CDS? 11 Apr 2012 21:22 #15735

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This is a new firm, I don't have any personal experience with them. They're not project green life.

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Re: What is CDS? 11 Apr 2012 22:22 #15743

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Thanks Pam. By the way, since you seem to know so much about this, I was wondering where you buy your CDS because it's good to follow someone who has the knowledge and experience like you do.

Sincerely,

John

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Re: What is CDS? 11 Apr 2012 23:43 #15745

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John i ordered from www.mmsgreenlife.com in Janunary.

On Saturday 1/14/12 I placed the order and recieved a confimration email.
On Tuesday 1/17/12 I received another email confirming order was shipped that day.
On Wednesday 1/18/12 USPS delivered the product to me.

Not bad... it only took 3 buiness days...
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Re: What is CDS? 26 Apr 2012 10:21 #16326

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Thanks, alfernandes!

A little more information - Chlorine Dioxide is what JH says is the active agent in MMS (when MMS is activated with citric acid) - Andreas Kalcker discovered a method of mixing up MMS1 and capturing the gas in distilled water or a saline solution, like Andre Luiz said. It has the advantage of very little taste (although the smell can be strong) - and most people do not have the stomach upset they might get with activated MMS. It has proven particularly useful in skin issues (it's so new, we're still discovering where its strength lies - but Michael is collecting testimonials and keeping them in the CDS folder. Andreas has done a couple of videos on how to make it, and so has Jim Humble.

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Hello Pam,

Much as I respect your understanding and wisdom concerning MMS, I do find, (as a stickler for detail) that I need to take issue with what you have said.

A little more information - Chlorine Dioxide is what JH says is the active agent in MMS (when MMS is activated with citric acid)


MMS is NOT activated with citric acid. It is Sodium Chlorite which is activated with citric acid in order to produce the finished product we call MMS1 or Chlorine Dioxide.

Andreas Kalcker discovered a method of mixing up MMS1 and capturing the gas in distilled water or a saline solution, like Andre Luiz said. It has the advantage of very little taste (although the smell can be strong)


I agree that in its concentrated form (say 3000 parts per million) the CDS does have a strong smell, but when a 1ml dosage is diluted with half a glass of water, the odour is insignificant.

It has proven particularly useful in skin issues (it's so new, we're still discovering where its strength lies...


The only thing which is "new" is the medium through which the MMS (Chlorine Dioxide) is taken.

The active ingredient (Chlorine Dioxide) remains exactly the same. Nothing has changed other than that the acidity (caused by the citric acid) has been removed from the MMS. The product itself remains unaltered. So unless one is claiming that the inclusion of citric acid does something medically significant, then there really is no efficacious change that has taken place.

My understanding is that the relevance of citric acid is purely that it acts as the agent of conversition when applied to Sodium Chlorite but has no stand alone medicinal benefits that can compare with those found in Chlorine Dioxide.

In my opinion we would be fooling ourselves to believe that the MMS has been enhanced in any way merely because the required gasious medicinal element has been captured within distilled water.

However, the tremendous importance of this new development is that for those who could not stomach the effects of the old MMS1/citric acid formulation, it is now possible, for the first time, to start using it with both a reduction in odour and the absence of acidity. I am one of those individuals. But make no mistake - the effective part of the sacriment remains essentially the same.

You may wish to accuse me of being pedantic but I feel that it is tremendously important for the details to be comprehensively communicated. Thus reducing the risk of confusion.

Best wishes,

Mark
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Re: What is CDS? 26 Apr 2012 15:01 #16333

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You are being a bit pedantic, Mark, but that's OK. You've confused MMS and MMS1. MMS IS a 28% solution of sodium chlorite in water. You can get make sodium chlorite into any number of solutions with water by weight, and only the 28% (or if you want to get pedantic, the 22.4%, since SC is only 80% of the SC flakes) is MMS. MMS is the mixture of 28% SC by weight and water. MMS1 (which we used to call MMS before we got MMS2 <G>) is derived by activating the MMS with some form of citric acid.

You may find the odor insignificant - I still find it strong. Even when mixed with water - beyond that, given the strength of the smell, whether in the bottle or in the mix, some people anticipate the taste to be as strong. To state that it is not strong when you're taking it with 4-8 oz of water and someone else is taking it with 1-2 oz could confuse the person taking it with a smaller amount of water into thinking they've gotten a "bad" batch.

CDS is new. It is the chlorine dioxide gas in solution. We have never had the formulation available before. It was brought to the community only last fall, and we ARE still discovering that there are things it is more or less effective than with MMS. And we are still working on understanding the dosing. Do a search on Woofy's posts and you will find a note from Jim Humble himself. CDS is still a "moving target." Again, yes, it does have chlorine dioxide, which is what Jim states is the primary active ingredient in MMS1. However, in MMS1, you have other ingredients that may also affect healing - so with the use of citric acid, MMS1 produces hypochlorous acid, which also is used by the immune system to kill pathogens (MMS2 is/makes hypochlorous acid) and MMS1 continues to activate in the body. The CA is necessary there.

IBelieve, I think you are a prime candidate to take the training. I would suggest, though, that you do it in person, so that as your bright and agile mind thinks of questions, you can get them answered immediately <G>.

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