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Dawna wrote:

martin said " There is something more behind the climate scam and climate remediation."
The climate crisis has been the Democrat vote catcher for years, scare us into voting for them. A lot of us finally get it though. For me, I went to the South Pacific Island - Fanning Island - when was profiled on 60 Minutes, they told the tale that this is the island first to go under as the sea levels rise... they showed us the village going under, waves in their front yard. It's the most remote land mass on earth so no way someone would go there and check it out,

Yes I have been thinking this for years. Always remote locations the masses would never get to travel to are being used to prove man-caused global warming. As for here at home in Norway, why not just start measure sea water levels in the fjords. You would get to an average over 20-30 year periods and be able to register an inch or two. But no, we always have to believe what happens at remote locations to see the world going under. Same with vaccines and virus theory, climate change is religion.
Well it's a play of words as well. Because climate actually does change, both periodically and over generations. It's always done that , as you also say the elders on Greenland have noticed.
So my conclusion is they are adding layers of nano particles in the atmosphere for entirely different reasons than mitigating climate change. It is for creating "The Cloud", a super conductive atmosphere the technocrats can play around with. Or "Skynet" as hollywood used to call it..Those not complying or individuals which there is no need for can simply be "turned off".

So you are from Norway! Wonderful country, love the place, yes I've been twice, the first time I almost started crying walking down the street... as NO one looked at me at all, not even a glance, like I didn't exist... while here in the USA people acknowledge each other and most times smile at everyone. Then I saw a TV actress on TV explaining how you guys think you are respecting other people's space, but she had been living in the USA for a little while and was out to change you Norwegians.... so we went again, and the people had changed.
But my gosh, the prices you pay for your socialism, going out to lunch is a major wallet slap. We pay so little for everything. Yes, then we buy our own insurance, but I still think you pay much much more in the long run. A store owner told us about how the homeless make as much money as he does, he was angry, he works all day, they sit in the park.
Your conclusion sounds horrid and my brain cannot let that in.
Fanning Island is on the opposite side of the globe for you.
Climate change is pure evil.... just a vote catcher, make people think that people who don't follow the dogma are killers.

Dawna wrote:

Your conclusion sounds horrid and my brain cannot let that in.

I know. You women dislike men alarming you of danger. You rather want men to get out there and solve the issue, then get back to report how the bad guys were taken care of.
But it's kindof gotten too big and bad for that. We need critical mass. Need to have as many as possible talk about it.
And yes Norwegians are not the easiest people to get to know. We don't mean it personally. Actually I like you.
You have been to a lot of places!

NO, NO... I just simply think that idea is crazy. I'm married so I don't think men will solve anything... (:
I keep meaning to look up the new news put out by Norway on climate change, briefly heard on TV and now I can't find it.. do you know?
Instead of having kids we had trips (they cost the same).
My husband is Norwegian.... roots anyway, we searched graveyards while there.

Dawna wrote:

I'm married so I don't think men will solve anything... (:

LOL! Marriage has been compared to locking up Palestinians and Jews in the same house. I really don't get why people keep doing it.
Apart from some accidentally synchronized hormonal desires to start with, understood to be love, we end up having nothing much to say, nor feel.

I wouldn't know which news you're after, we used to be bombarded with fake climate news. The news has gotten a bit more varied since corona. We now have two topics to pick from. 3 topics actually, the 3rd being constantly being confronted with how stupid and dangerous Trump is. Interestingly, climate change seems now to be blamed for corona. It could be we need lockdowns to save the climate. As soon the climate has been saved corona will go away Then we can quit lockdown.
But I can tell you the story of Gro Harlem Brundtland, a former PM of Norway. She is the founder of the word "sustainable development". Here at home she is still popular and highly respected, commonly referred to as Mother of the Land. Very few Norwegians are aware of that she actually is the hooker of the land. Gro sold out Norway to the european union bureaucrats 5 months before norway voted a second time, loud and clearly, NOT to join the EU. The media didn't care so Gro got away and the people still do not get we have been sold out since 1994.
As you experienced yourself, Norwegians do not involve themselves just like that. If we have to we can always honor God, the king and the fatherland. But EU bureaucrats? No thanks.
Of course the EU could not deny the fact that Norway voted against. It was televised and no secret that Norwegians didn't want any of it. Therefore a separate deal called EØS, meaning european economic cooperation, got devised. Since then Norway hardly has had anything to say in the EU, while at the same time having to fully comply by whatever the bureaucrats see fit.
Gro, hooker of the land, moved on to head the WHO and has been running in and out the UN doors ever since, assisting in a write up called Agenda 21...

Many Norwegians fled poverty, slavery, hunger and disease. Probably half the country jumped on board of ships and were transported to the USA. Same happened in many other european countries. They were promised and hoped for new possibilities, same way as today the muslim world is being shipped to both europe and USA.
In what today is your country we ended up helping to kill off natives and take their land. Today it may be our, the west/white mans turn to bite the dust by means of the ongoing migrations.

As long as people think chemtrails is just a crazy idea there is nothing to research. Nothing to fear.

Dawna wrote:

the new news put out by Norway on climate change, briefly heard on TV and now I can't find it.. do you know?

Maybe this? news.trust.org/item/20201218140025-po1gu

That's not the article, it was a study that said that even if we stopped air flights, killed all the livestock and walked everywhere -- that the CO2 ring wouldn't change much in 30 years... the temp would go down 1/8 of a degree... something like that.

Thanks for all your info... I kinda knew most of that, but great to get it first hand, and in detail, well, more than what we get here!

The thing about the chem trails which makes it seem a hoax... is that the people doing it are also breathing it.... OR - are those the people wearing a mask? (kidding)

oh yes, I know it is easy to turn off the water drainage - but it doesn't make it sinister.
And someone I know just got covid and wore a mask constantly.... isn't it funny how you have to be tested to know that you might have this severely deadly disease.
Is everyone wearing a mask in Norway?