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CDH & MMS Calculator (excel file) ... some of you might find this as handy as I do.

CDH is not made using 50% citric acid.

Well then, you better contact Mark Grenon and correct him because in his video from the Genesis 2 Church entitled "HOW TO MAKE CDH - CHLORINE DIOXIDE HOLDING SOLUTION", he adds 25 mls of MMS (Sodium Chlorite dissolved in water) and 25 mls of Activator (which he says you can make using Citric Acid [with the only caveat being a difference in taste] dissolved in water]) to 500 mls of water to make a 550 mls solution of CDH.

Also, I would like to remind you that Jim Humble stated in his book "The Master Mineral Solution of the Third Millennium (2011)", on page 50, that he himself stated, "If you do use an acid other than citric acid, you should add somewhere, if you are selling it, “not approved by Jim Humble”".

I merely made a shortcut version which someone can make all at once.

Does there have to be such negativity and conflicting information on this board?

I am the co-creator of CDH along with the original CDH creator Scott McRae. mmsinfo.org

Mark Grenon took our 6 months work of CDH testing and changed the recipe without any testing! In other words, he plagiarized our work.

"The Master Mineral Solution of the Third Millennium (2011)" is an outdated book. If you read Jim's latest book you will see that the recommended MMS activator is 4% HCL. By the way, I was one of the five proof-readers for Jim's latest book.

The next time you want to spout off, get all the facts first. NO FAKE NEWS allowed here.

Fidelityboy, CLO2 merely said, "CDH is not made using 50% citric acid."

I don't see any negativity in that statement since it's true, "CDH", what CLO2 and I created, is not made using 50% citric acid and therefore, if Mark wants to use it, then it's no longer "CDH".

You're the one who lashed out after CLO2 simply posted the statement, "CDH is not made using 50% citric acid"

I appreciate your effort and desire to help, but CLO2 is correct. As I see it the main problem with Mark changing the recipe as he did is that if someone uses it they won't know what their final ppm is and therefore without knowing the ppm after the CDH is finished, you can't dilute down to a desired ppm accurately, which I feel is one of the primary benefits of CDH.

All the best,
Scott
PS. By the way we did contact Mark and explained the above problem with what he did, and asked him to fix his video - he refused.

CLO2 & Truthquester,

I thank both of you for your comments and clarification. My goal, like yours, is merely to help people and not to spread any "FAKE NEWS".

"You're the one who lashed out after CLO2 simply posted the statement, "CDH is not made using 50% citric acid"" ... Quite true and I apologize to CLO2.

It is quite unfortunate that there is conflicting information out there even within the realm of the MMS world.

I will continue to make my 'brew' of CDH with the understanding that it is not, now, using the approved version of an activator as stated in Jim's new book (but I will refer to what I make as "CDH" only in regards that it is a Chlorine Dioxide Holding solution, however, not to the same metric to which it is made when using HCL). As for myself, I much prefer using Citric Acid over HCL.

By the way, if either of you gentlemen know, what do you believe the concentration varies by when using Citric Acid vs. HCL (when used in a CDH type solution)? In other words, how much more, or less, potent is a CDH solution when made with Citric Acid vs. HCL?

Thanks

Hi Fidelityboy - thanks for your apology.
Looks like both CLO2 and I may have misspoke too though, and owe you an apology in a way because according to the table we basically approved for Kerri's book, Healing the Symptoms of Autism, 50% citric acid can be used (we must have approved it, right CLO2?), but it's been so long and we both prefer HCl so much that we must have put it out of our minds. Another reason we may have put it out of our minds is because we were both so pissed off at Mark for screwing up the formula so badly. When you see the table for a 550ml bottle you'll understand that by using 25ml of 50% citric acid he completely screwed up the end result and then had no idea of what concentration of CLO2 he had. Kind of like a drunk person making a cake and totally ignoring the recipe we spent so much time perfecting, and then presenting it to the world on YouTube as if it was still the same thing. So attached below is the table for you to see what the correct amount is for a 550ml bottle.

Regarding your question as to what the end concentration is, it's hard to know for sure but since 50% citric acid is about 40% more than 35% and we know if Mark followed the table he would have ended up with 3500 ppm. 3500 ppm plus 40% more is 4900 ppm. But then he also used more than the 22.9ml he was supposed to have used even with the 35% citric acid, and instead he used 25ml of 50% citric acid (when he should have only used 16ml). So because of all that the final ppm is probably something over 5000 ppm. I think you can see why we were so upset with him for screwing it up so badly. And then to add insult to injury, he wouldn't even correct it (to this day).

Hope that helps and you have my apology too.

All the best,
Scott

THANKS!

Attached, please find my (UPDATED) excel form which reflects the mathematics from the calculations ascertained by careful observation from CLO2 and TRUTHQUESTER when using Citric Acid as the activator for CDH.

Upon first glance at the file, which opens up into the excel tab which calculates for Citric Acid at 35% concentration, it will appear that the calculations are off but that is only because the breakdown that I provide shows how someone can make any desired quantity of (the Citric Acid form of) CDH at all once, by the, direct, addition of WATER, SODIUM CHLORITE, and CITRIC ACID (which needs to sit and react for at least 8 hours before being put into the fridge).

For verification of the amounts, that they, exactly, coincide with those provided by CLO2 and TRUTHQUESTER, merely look a little further down in the form at the MMS Calculator section (which shows the breakdown of the individual components).

I hope many will find this to be a useful tool; I have provided for CDH creation using Citric Acid at, both, 35% and 50% concentrations.