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We may never know. But to me at least, the Virus itself is REAL. What's frightening about it is many confirmed positives were asymptomatic. Governments and health institutions, however, have been inaccurately reporting the real number of cases. Some countries underreport, citing "backlogs". Some go over the actual numbers, attributing deaths to covid-19 when another diseases has actually caused the mortality.

I only know one person personally that had it - he's still short of breath 2 to 3 months later

After watching the video of the president of Tanzania telling his people that a goat and a pawpaw tested positive for Covid-19 I decided to look at the figures of states.
Hawaii, right next to China and full of Chinese mainland tourists, and well, winter time when the state is FULL of tourists from all over the world, and they have a large homeless population who I would think would be vunerable to a virus has a population of 1,413,000. And 1,354 tested positive, and 24 deaths.
Colorado, also full of tourists as it was winter time, has a population that is 5 times larger than Hawaii, so I would assume it would have a death rate of 5 times that of Hawaii.... however the death rate is 1,615..... 69 times higher than Hawaii.

Tell me something ain't smelly in this!

oh, by the way a pawpaw is a fruit tree

apparently no test has been done to isolate the virus. a foia in canada confirms that no such test has been done anywhere on the planet. click and paste the following link. davidicke.com/2020/07/19/canadas-national-research-council-no-record-of-covid-19-virus-sars-cov-2-isolation-by-anyone-anywhere-on-the-planet-in-other-words-as-i-have-been-saying-for-months-they-have-never-shown-th/

also what you have to bear in mind is that if you have ever had a flu injection you will test positive for corona as its in your body

Dawna wrote:

After watching the video of the president of Tanzania telling his people that a goat and a pawpaw tested positive for Covid-19 I decided to look at the figures of states.
Hawaii, right next to China and full of Chinese mainland tourists, and well, winter time when the state is FULL of tourists from all over the world, and they have a large homeless population who I would think would be vunerable to a virus has a population of 1,413,000. And 1,354 tested positive, and 24 deaths.
Colorado, also full of tourists as it was winter time, has a population that is 5 times larger than Hawaii, so I would assume it would have a death rate of 5 times that of Hawaii.... however the death rate is 1,615..... 69 times higher than Hawaii.

Tell me something ain't smelly in this!

I'm assuming there's a lot more Sun in Hawaii then Colorado ?

Which also fits in with the theory that Vitamin D protects people from COVID

have just come across this as well. Bill Gates Funded The PIRBRIGHT Institute, Which Owns The Patent On Coronavirus.its printed in AMERICAN TRUTH TODAY

Yes, I believe the 'pandemic' is a scam, in fact I believe that there is no new 'virus' at all. Th alleged 'virus' has not been proven to have been isolated and purified by anyone on the planet. Therefore, the test cannot possibly be for Covid 1984, but is probably for genetic material such as exosomes, which will show up in most people especially if they are fearful and stressed. The complicit Main Stream Media around the world have helped to cause such an environment. See davidicke.com/ for many articles and videos exposing the scam.

I have looked into this from every angle, and after four months, it's still not clear what's going on. Amazingly.

There are real people getting sick, exhibiting unique symptoms, namely the hypoxia we heard about months ago from Dr. Cameron-Sidell and others, and the loss of taste and smell.

The majority of the alt media (including Dr. Mercola, Mike Adams, Alex Jones etc.) seems to think this is caused by a man-made virus. There are many articles describing the features of this virus - how it has components from HIV and others - to make it more dangerous. The Nobel Prize-winning AIDS doctor Luc Montagnier is one of those most quoted as saying this.

On the other hand, decades-old disagreements exist about what viruses really are and what they do. I've learned in my research these past four months that viral causation for many of the most famous diseases that exist has been questioned for years, including for AIDS, Polio, SARS, Avian Flu & others.

Regarding the current situation, Dr. Andrew Kaufman, Dr. Thomas Cowan and quite a few others have looked at the studies and scientific processes on which all this is based, and found essentially hot air. The tests have been taken apart, and claimed to be worthless. Dr. Judy Mikovits has also stated that this situation is not being caused by the infamous virus.

In regard to a post above about a goat and a fruit testing positive for Covid, some friends of a friend went to get tested for work with some others. They went to the place, filled out all the paperwork, and waited their turn. It was taking a super long time, so they got fed up and left. They never had any specimens taken. The results came back a few days later - they were positive.

Unfortunately, the science of all this is over the head of 99% of us, so it's very difficult to sort out the validity of the arguments. Even those with qualified scientific training can't agree on the most basic things, like what viruses are and whether they cause disease. Or whether HIV causes AIDS...

The biochemist who created the PCR test currently being used for Covid, who won the Nobel Prize for doing so, Kary Mullis, looked into AIDS for years and concluded that it's not caused by HIV. I had heard that for years, but never from such a prominent mainstream scientist.

Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be much dialogue between the different camps regarding this pandemic. The experts touting the official story are not conversing with those claiming the virus was man-made or the doctors who say there's no virus at all. Not that I've seen anyway.

The people in these three camps also do not give adequate explanations for the evidence that is contrary to their theories. The "man-made virus" camp doesn't explain the massive apparent holes in the viral-causation theory exposed by Drs. Kaufman, Cowan and others. Meanwhile, the "no-virus" camp isn't offering any good explanations for what is causing people to be sick with these unique symptoms. (5G doesn't make a lot of sense.)

The thing that makes as much sense to me as any other is the psychological/emotional/psychic aspect of all this - the incredible power of fear, and suggestion of illness by our medical/governmental leaders and media. This is a massively understated aspect of all this, and I have felt those forces working on me, even though I don't really trust those entities.

To really take it out into left field, and I will probably lose most of you here, some mystics/yogis/spiritual masters of the past have stated that things like the Spanish Flu of 1918 were not caused by a virus at all, but rather entities that were beyond the physical attacking people (in that case related to WW1), causing them to develop certain symptoms and die. While the current pandemic is of a far smaller scale than that one, could it be that something similar is taking place now, with the fear/power of suggestion from the media and governments opening the door to this on an individual basis?

Many believe that there are some not-so-nice forces that have an agenda of complete control of planet earth, and this pandemic is the beginning of their endgame. Could this tie in with the possibility above?

I don't know, and it is beyond the scope of normal human beings to have these answers. All I know is that there's a lot of craziness going on, and I haven't encountered a single individual with adequate explanations.