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Weidenfrau wrote:

"you would have the same n/d problem with CDS"
Thats not my experience Scott.
I had never any N/D problems with CDS. Doesn`t matter how high the doses are.
But I have still problems with higher MMS1 doses.
It is better to stop the process with charcoal then torture the system with N/D I reckon. As I wrote, I reduse the charcoal as soon as possible to increase the amount of effective MMS again. Charcoal is a first aid treatment or a detox treatment (not together with MMS)

Hi Sylvia,
You misunderstood my statement. Please re-read what I said. I'm basically saying that the reason why you don't have stomach problems with CDS is because there is no sodium chlorite in it. So the cause of the n/d in the MMS1 for you (not for everyone) is the sodium chlorite and not the CLO2.

Hope that helps,
Scott

red_wing_fan, glad you can follow the reasoning of that PDF file . There is also a simple equivalent dosing chart on the last pages of CDH/S and MMS Protocols-1 , CDH/S and MMS Protocols-2 and 31 reasons MMS not working .

If I was advising someone just starting on P1000, I think I would suggest using CDS because at the maximum P1000 dosing of 3 drops/3ml/6ml (MMS1/CDH/CDS) there should not be a throat irritation problem. And if the person did not have adequate stomach acid to activate residual MMS in MMS1 or CDH, there would not be any unreacted MMS in their stomach which can be an irritant to some people.

For higher dosing, such as when following P2000, then CDH might be the best choice because it is much more activated externally than MMS1. Again, there would be less unreacted MMS to possibly cause problems in a stomach with little or no gastric acids.

Truthquester - I read your post the same way Sylvia did so we must just be intrepreting it differently. But your recent post completely cleared up what was being said. Thank you!

CLO2 - Your last post (3/27/2015 00:24, Post #49413) was extremely helpful. I was going to try CDH next, but I think I will try CDS instead and completely remove unactivated MMS from the equation. If I experience N/D then we will know it is Herx and that I would need to really cut my dosage down. If I do ok on CDS (no N/D) then maybe I can test the waters with CDH.

Also, CLO2 - your statement of "Don't be in a hurry to max out on dosing." from post #49390 is key. I may have been so excited about the potential of this treatment that I was too aggressive in upping the dosage. And yes, for some of us, 3 drops per hour for 8 hours could very well be "too aggressive" when beginning the protocols.

One last question for you seasoned MMS-ers: When I did encounter the N/D, it was extreme and would last for up to 4 days following cessation of the protocol (I completely stopped taking drops). Does that sound like a reaction to unactivated MMS, or - as some people keep mentioning a parasite issue - a sustained parasitic reaction? I ask this because from all the literature I have read on MMS, when you encounter N/D, reducing the dosage or stopping the protocol seemed to quickly mitigate the N/D. But that doesn't happen in my case.

THANKS again to everyone who contributes to my questions and to the forum!!!

I know this is not for everybody and out of topic but it is bloody good.
Drinking your own urine.
I am serious. I do it if I have severe issues and it works wonder. Doesn`t taste half as disgusting as MMS. You can drink as much as you want. The more the better. It is not toxic and doesn`t contain the toxines you want to get rid off but the information of it. It tells your body what to do. Best and cheapest med ever.
Taste like MSM and all the other horrible tasty healthy stuff.
If you are interested there are heaps of information online. There is a bood too. Not sure if it is in english available.
Have fun
Sylvia

Another link which you could be interested in about bath
mmswiki.is/index.php?title=Bath_protocol

Regarding your question, for my understanding the nausea might be caused be an extreme amount of poison which has been activated in your system through the MMS. Drink as much good fresh water as possible to flush the poison out. If the poison is caused by parasites, probably yes for my understanding but is doesn`t have to be worms which are harder to get rid off.
If your nausea is caused by unactivated MMS you can find out easily already tomorrow. Just produce your own CDS and see how it goes. When you still don`t know how to do ask.
For my experience the tolerance to MMS will increase step by step. Thatsway it is the best way for my understanding to start with CDS+DMSO and bathes. After a while I tolerated 6ml per oral dose 10 times a day without any problems.
I hope you know not to take antioxydants while taking MMS. But antioxydenants are important too. So find a way to have a break and take AOs too. A green smoothie every day (just a handfull green and an apple) and Tumeric if you like it and MSM (both antioxydant!!!) in the breaks will help too.
Drink as much of the best water (not out of plastic bottles) as you can effort or if you have a spring or a stream close by...Don`t fill it in plastic bottles. It kills the water.
If you life close to the sea drink deluted clean fresh sea water. Andreas Kalcker has good success with it.
It is hard to deal with so many informations isn`t it?
Make sure your system gets alcaline. Bakingsoda might help and veges.

Hi everybody.
Could you please tell me how to use MMS2 without capsules? I have MMS2 powder and would like to use it WITHOUT having to put it in capsules.

Thank you.

Rom

If you are talking about using MMS2 externally, you can mix some powder with water until the water is saturated with MMS2 and apply that to skin. It may burn skin, but you will know that soon enough.

If you try to ingest the powder without putting it in capsules, let us know how that works out for you.

As I recall, some have tried that and they said they would not be doing that again. Try searching the forum, setting the date range to 'any date'.

Thank you. Yes I am talking about ingesting it, not applying externally. I think I remember reading it somewhere how to take it by mixing it with honey, but I am not 100% sure...

Yes, you are correct, in P4000 Jim describes how to take MMS2 in honey.

The Honey Technique ...... is for those who do not have capsules or who cannot take them. Try to get a jar of raw honey because if there is any added preservative, it won't work. Normally, they don't add preservatives, but who knows what they will do next and preservatives will cancel the value of the calcium hypochlorite. But if no raw honey is available, a good quality brand from a supermarket should be OK.

Be sure to check the label to see that no preservative or vitamin C has been added. Natural vitamin C already in the honey is not a problem. Honey doesn't need any preservative and it will last for years or even decades by itself, but many people who deal with honey do not understand that.

Put the honey in the refrigerator. It is absolutely necessary that the honey be at least as cold as a good refrigerator. Then measure out the correct amount of calcium hypochlorite for your bi-hourly dose and mix it into a very small amount of very cold honey about the same size as the pile of hypochlorite that you will take. Do not allow any water or moisture to mix in.

Once you have mixed it, immediately put it on the front tip of a teaspoon and take it. Have a glass of water there to wash it down.

• It must go down immediately as it will taste terrible when it begins to warm up. Drink at least one glassful of water. If you do this right, there will be absolutely no problem and no taste. Do not try to use honey at room temperature. It will not work because the honey will begin a reaction with the calcium hypochlorite immediately and the taste will keep you from getting it down your throat. If you do not have a refrigerator, buy some ice and put the honey jar in ice water. Or better still, put a small amount of honey in a plastic bag and put that in the ice water. It will get chilled much faster that way.

• The honey must be cold when used. The water is important. The 200 lb. person, 160 lb. person, and the 100 lb. person should drink at least 8 ounces of water with the honey and MMS2 dose. See above for the amount of water that should be taken with each dose.