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I got my sc and hcl last night - it was very, very cold. I put it in my sheepskin boots to store as I keep my house temp @ 66 degrees. any warmer and I get too hot.

I think I screwed up right away LOL- I got out 8 oz baby bottle. I put 8 oz of dw in the bottle. I then put 4 drops sc then 4 drops hcl shook it, capped it - put it under the covers of my waterbed because is it warmer. shook it two more times. left it there for 30 minutes. Put it in the fridge and that is where it still is. There was no color whatsoever in the water. It seems to me there should have been some activation. I did not open it yet and smell. I was thinking I was making their total daily dose of 1/4 drop per dog for 15 ml water for 8 hours. I did not use this yet.

I then dosed my dogs by activating one drop @ 60 sec activation then 15ml dw, gave each 3.75ml in small amount of baby food to = 1/4 drop dose @ dog. I put the rest into their water bowls.

I was going for the 15 minute cdh formula. I think I just did not put enough sc and hcl? I put that amount for the days dose for both dogs. or is it that I should have added 12ml of cdh to that 8 oz to get 1/4 drop dose?
Please advise, I feel really stupid, this isn't that hard.

What is the shelf life of cdh, I hear some say weeks and some say months.

I guess what I don't understand is why do some say cdh can be made in 15 min. then in fridge for 1 hour for days dose (then ready to use, I am thinking just drink it as it is for daily dose) and then the 12 hrs. recipe? why even make the 12 hrs if 15 min is all that is needed?

the longer activation time means there is little if any SC or HCl in the solution.
Shorter activations have some residual of the components which is thought t contribute to nausea.
I don't think you will see much colour change in 4 drops over 8 oz.
4 drops in 8 1 ounce servings would be 1/2 drop per ounce.
To be sure its working put 3 of each in a shot glass and observe.

Like you my water home is often 65ish...up 10 degrees where I used to keep my place Letterman studio temp of 55F.

CDH likely last long time, sealed keep cool and in dark location.

Only the really ill start at partial drop doses.
So you can likely build up to 3 per hour quickly.

Keep us posted, we are watching...

The original CDH was made using the Two Bottle Method followed later by the One Bottle Method. Both will make the same amount of CLO2 per milliliter of solution. The One Bottle Method is easier but takes longer. Again, the written directions are here: www.mmsinfo.org/infosheets/infosheet_cdh.pdf

Note that the two Basic Recipes are different. You are using a different recipe from either of those and that is why is seems not to be working. Scott and I spent months to arrive at the current recipes.

To dose an animal or small person, just reduce how much CDH you put in your daily dosing bottle.

Jb13

I was reading your PDF for CDH. The capsule method that is The one I like. Is three drops of the 30 ml solution or six for the three drop protocol.

So, for the first day I decided to just activate each dose giving them each 1/4 drop. I had to leave twice so my hours were interrupted. I did get 4 doses into their systems. The extra from the mixture = 1/2 drop each dose, I just dumped into the water bowls. (one of my cats ended up with diarrhea this am, one dog and two cats share one bowl and the other dog has his own. The water bowls are filled with 1/2 to 3/4 gallon water. so one drop was too much for my one cat - maybe some issue there so I will continue with smaller amount).

I made a one ounce bottle of cdh and will use for today. This is way easier than I made it out to be, I feel silly.

1 ml cdh = 1 drop mms1 is how I will be calculating today.

I am happy to report that after just four 1/4 drop doses my female had no blood in her urine this am. Whenever I backed off the colloidal silver even a few ounces the blood returned. So, I am very happy about that.

I am mixing mms with a small amount of baby food to flavor. My male eats it right up, my female not so much. I will see if it is better with the cdh. I think it is the smell she doesn't like.

I did take a couple ounces of the bottle I prepared myself and I did taste the mms.

I will start myself in a few days.

JB13, I did figure out that I made a mistake when mixing the first bottle when I checked the recipe for making cdh.

I really appreciate your experimenting and developing exact recipes. It is just confusing because of the slight differences and abbreviations. But when I had everything in front of me with the recipe - simple.

I made it out to be more complicated than it is by wanting to understand all of it rather than just one at a time. Thank you.

JB13 Just a quick question: I followed the instructions for making cdh overnight in 1 oz. bottle. I read your calculations on potency:

139.5mg / 31ml = 4.5mg CLO2 per 1ml of CDH, 0.19mg/drop CDH
● 139.5mg / 1.3ml SC = 107mg CLO2/ml, 4.5mg/drop of SC used.
● Not bad compared to the maximum theoretical yield of 6.7mg per drop of SC.
● 5.0mg/drop SC has been achieved using the CDH Two Bottle method. (Test #59)
● Each drop of 746 drops CDH contains 0.19mg of CLO2. (24 drops = 1ml solution)

I understand that the cdh is weaker than original mms (or the max to extract from sc)= 6.7mg and cdh = 4.5mg per 1ml. (one bottle one ounce production) I have been dosing as 1ml cdh is = 1 drop mms., looks like 1ml cdh is 67% of 1 drop mms. Can someone please clarify. No need for anything other than equivalency.

so 1.3ml of cdh would be approx = 1 drop mms?

Penny,

the maximum theoretical yield of 6.7mg per drop of SC.

is just that; theoretical. No one knows how much CLO2 a "drop" of SC will produce from classic MMS. Very little CLO2 is made from classic MMS outside the body and we assume much more is made inside. But, we have no way to measure that as far as I know.

I understand that the cdh is weaker than original mms

is not true. Both use the same ingredients, and are just activated differently. They may produce the same results, but we don't know that now. We need more people using CDH to find out. If no one will use CDH because it is unproven, how will we prove its effectiveness?

The 1ml CDH compared to 1 drop SC when making classic MMS only applies to the CDH One and Two Bottle Recipes, not to the capsule recipes. And that comparison is not proven.

gjplaceres, until a few days ago, the current CDH Capsule Recipes were short lived, only good for a day or less. Experimenting with the recipe, it seems there is one that is more stable. I will be changing infosheet_cdh.pdf as soon as I measure the CLO2 concentration of the latest capsule recipe.

It is difficult to compare CDH or CDS to classic MMS because we don't know how much CLO2 MMS will produce inside the body. Probably best to dose CDS and CDH until the desired result is obtained. We need more testing to determine if CDS and CDH will provide the same results as classic MMS.