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Discussing equipment for making CDS - new method 16 Jun 2013 17:54 #33833

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OK. Im all set up now with the correct jar and shot glass, thanks to some very dedicated help from this forum. Ive been going through the instructions for making the CDS. I see several suggestions for what to put into the shot glass.

I read the following suggestions, 10ml mms with 10ml Ca, 12ml mms with 12 ml CA and 20ml mms with 20ml Ca.

Im after the 3,000 ml because I understand that this is standard dose, and I think that 10ml of mms and 10 of CA is what is used to get this, right?

Why are people using 12ml or 20ml?
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Discussing equipment for making CDS - new method 16 Jun 2013 18:49 #33835

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Arrow, that's where the LaMotte ClO2 test strips come in!

My testing with equipment and solutions at about 70 degrees F for 12 hours measured 3000 ppm using 12 ml of MMS and 12 ml of 50% citric acid. Two other folks also measured the same. One other person needed a lot more than 12 ml of solutions to get 3000 ppm. You really need to measure what you get a few times, and then probably won't need to do that any more.

Be sure to use distilled water for making the CDS and for measuring the ppm using 1 ml of the CDS and 60 ml of DW.

If you get more or less than 3000 ppm when you measure the CDS, you can dose using the dosing chart or just keep increasing the dose until you fix the problem(s) or herx occurs. The latter is rare.

Good luck!

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Discussing equipment for making CDS - new method 17 Jun 2013 00:17 #33841

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Hi Pam and JB13,

please confirm that the LaMotta (or other brand) of strips that we have to buy are for "Chlorine, Free, High Range" (Code # 3031, from Pam's above link) or the "Chlorine dioxide 3002". Please explain why do we measure the "Free chlorine" instead of "ClO2"?

In any case, if I understand what you previously wrote JB13, when we measure we have to get a result of "50" which we multiply with 60 to compare to the desired 3000ppm. (That is after we diluted the 1ml CDS in 60ml distilled water).

Thank you both! Thanks also to Arrow, you got great questions which required Pam's and JB13's answers.

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Discussing equipment for making CDS - new method 17 Jun 2013 12:06 #33858

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Thanks Sofi and the product number for the test strips was going to be my next question!

also, didn't I read somewhere that some folks are using much higher ppm than 3,000, like up to 20,000? If so what might be the plusses or minuses of that? If 3,000 is more comprable to 6 drops of the regular mms Id be inclined to stick with that as in my experience it does the work, but Im just curious.

Sometimes less is more. I will say this. I have a condition similar to illitius and Ive been managing it now for about 6 or 7 years with different antiseptics.. grapefruit seed extract at first, then ozone gas topical applicaiton, and now mms. 3 drops of mms 3 x a day for 3 days last time I needed treatment has kept it at by now for over 1.5 years. The first time I used mms for it I did a full origianl protocol working up in drops 3 x day for a few weeks. That kept it at bay for over 2 years. The GSE and ozone gas only held the condtion back for 6 months and one year respectively.

I always stopped the mms because of revulsion and over the years the revulsion has increased. Thats way my last treatment was only 3 drops 3xd for 3 days. But it worked well anyway. I will be curious to see if the CDS, if I dont have revulsion problems, on a long term protocol can get rid of it permanently.
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Discussing equipment for making CDS - new method 17 Jun 2013 12:32 #33859

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You are testing the chlorine dioxide, not the chlorine - the test strips come in a low range 0-10 and a high range 0-500. YOu need the 0-500 The test strips look l ike this






I got mine at WW Grainger
www.grainger.com/Grainger/LAMOTTE-Test-StripsTesting-Parameter-Chlorine-4EVX3?Pid=search

They've had them on Amazon (and probably ebay) if you look. Lamotte also has distributors in other countrires - although frequently the timing for posting is not good. They're also available at www.wps4sale.com
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Discussing equipment for making CDS - new method 17 Jun 2013 18:00 #33866

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Hi Sofi.

In any case, if I understand what you previously wrote JB13, when we measure we have to get a result of "50" which we multiply with 60 to compare to the desired 3000ppm. (That is after we diluted the 1ml CDS in 60ml distilled water).

Yes, that is correct. If you get a color matching 50, which is 50 ppm for the 60 ml diluted solution, and you had added 1 ml of the stock solution to 60 ml of distilled water, then you have a 1:60 diluted solution. Actually, it should be 1 ml and 59 ml for a total of 60, but that is nit picking!

So, multiply the 50 ppm reading by 60 and that is 3000 ppm, the concentration of the 1 ml of the stock solution, your CDS ppm.

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Discussing equipment for making CDS - new method 17 Jun 2013 21:44 #33870

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This is the jar I use as a receiver to make the CDS using this method. Lid is hermetic and all plastic.

www.amazon.com/Bormioli-Rocco-Frigoverre-Hermetic-2-Liters/dp/B0000DE9B5/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1371505315&sr=8-1&keywords=Bormioli+Rocco+Frigoverre+Jug+with+Hermetic+Lid

or

www.amazon.com/Bormioli-Rocco-Frigoverre-Hermetic-17-Ounce/dp/B003GY7Q7W/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1371505315&sr=8-2&keywords=Bormioli+Rocco+Frigoverre+Jug+with+Hermetic+Lid
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Discussing equipment for making CDS - new method 18 Jun 2013 02:14 #33876

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I purchased the Elite Pint mason jar from Lowes for $5.19:
www.lowes.com/ProductDisplay?productId=3534020&partNumber=37889-55287-1440061180&N=0&catalogId=10051&langId=-1

I found it by doing a web search for the part number: 1440061180

Then I went to Michaels and purchased the votive candle holder that Pam suggested for $1.

They are both in the dishwasher right now.
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Discussing equipment for making CDS - new method 18 Jun 2013 04:31 #33877

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Hi JB13,

Thanks for your quick answer!
Another question if you do not mind, same for Pam and other members:

I am familiar with the cancer Protocol #2000 for MMS1 & MMS2 but how does that translate to the CDS? Please advise for a protocol for advanced pancreatic cancer (any cancer in fact). My friend is very frail and lost a lot of weight.

Got my jars today and the plastic lids, did not get the testing strips yet...tomorrow will happen.
I am making the mixture tonight! Did not find any votive candle holders but have small (like shot glass) crystal glasses same size as Pam's candle holders. I wonder if could be a problem using them for the mixture as crystal glass has some lead???

After making the CDS, do I store it into a small glass bottle with a lid? Have some for my liquid supplements (dark brown bottles with a small dropper). I wonder if the small rubber ring from the bottle dropper can get damaged by CDS? Can I use them to store the CDS? In a previous answer you mention to put it in the fridge. How long does it last in the fridge at top potency?

Thanks!
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