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Thyroid interaction? 29 Mar 2023 19:33 #78150

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Has anyone heard of these protocols causing thyroid swelling, particularly if someone is sensitive to iodine?

I started Jim's protocol a couple months ago, or rather, I did doses even lower than the starting protocol for a couple months (literally 2 tsp of a 1/2 cup solution made from 1 drop MMS1). I had been gradually increasing the dose and last week got up to 12tsp, which I believe is 1/2 drop MMS1.

So I still haven't made it through the starting protocol - I'm aware these are very low doses and it's been suggested I could have some lyme bacteria, definitely have mold, so I'm taking the protocol slowly.

A couple days ago I happened to notice I had a swollen thyroid area -- this happened some time back due to accidental iodine overdose. During that time I noticed I was sensitive to iodine and cut it out of food briefly. I have had a thyroid nodule diagnosed in the past but was able to shrink it using castor oil packs placed over the thyroid area.

At the same time I noticed the swollen thyroid recently, I had also had more dairy products than usual, and a stressful event. I'd also been using castor oil packs once or twice on the thyroid.

I dropped the MMS dose back to very low, then got off entirely to wait until my thyroid felt normal again.

I've been doing some research about whether chlorine dioxide can interact with the thyroid in any way, but am not clear on whether the research is suggesting that it does or whether it's a problem, or not.

I know people who are having great success with Jim's protocols and would love to continue on them, but also don't want to cause thyroid issues.

Has anyone heard of people with iodine sensitivity having issues, or is it perhaps a temporary reaction that goes away as someone continues the protocol? I don't want to cause issues with pre-existing thyroid nodules.

It could also be unrelated to the increase in MMS, and simply be stress and dairy, or some interaction with the castor oil packs, though in the past the castor oil packs have only been helpful.

Hope this is clear, but ask if it is not. Thanks in advance!

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Thyroid interaction? 30 Mar 2023 17:20 #78160

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Hello Hawthorn, to be clear, I don't have experience with thyroid issues, but when I read this part of your post "A couple days ago I happened to notice I had a swollen thyroid area -- this happened some time back due to accidental iodine overdose. During that time I noticed I was sensitive to iodine and cut it out of food briefly. I have had a thyroid nodule diagnosed in the past but was able to shrink it using castor oil packs placed over the thyroid area.

At the same time I noticed the swollen thyroid recently, I had also had more dairy products than usual, and a stressful event. I'd also been using castor oil packs once or twice on the thyroid" 
I wondered if you've been consulting a doctor or therapist, finding out about the diagnose, like the one when you had a nodule on your thyroid.  

Are your decisions for treatment made by yourself? A thyroid issue isn't a small problem, I believe, specially, when you've had a nodule on your thyroid, and an iodine sensitivity.

Have you read the Health Recovery Guide by Jim Humble? You can order it for about $10 as an ebook. Are you familiar with the testimonials on Jim Humble's site? You might find similar cases, treating thyroid issues with a MMS protocol, and read about the experiences.

When you use MMS, an effect of this treatment is detoxification, and in this process the result can be a swelling of lymfe nodes, such as the glands in the neck, below the ears. I'm not sure what kind of swelling you noticed, if it's in those glands I described. Is the swelling on the front? Like the swelling visitlble in patients with Basebow? Hyperthyreoïdy?

The glands that are each on the side of the neck, are all over our body as well, and they're like mini-landfills, collecting the toxines, released in the bloodstream by the work of the white bloodcells, and also, by the effect of an MMS protocol, removing pathogens from the body.

If I were you, it's easier to figure out what the effect of MMS is on the swelling, by lowering the dose and see if the swelling calms down, increase the dose and observe the effect of it, so that you know it's caused by the MMS Protocol when the swelling shows up. At the same time, better not use castor oil packs, for this makes it difficult to know what the effect is of the MMS protocol, be it a lower or a higher dose, see what I mean? 

Regarding dairy consumption, when you use non-organica dairy, a residue of hormones and antibiotics is stored in the fats present in dairy. The hormones are meant to increase the milkproduction. It's best to not consume food products that you're not used to, or raise the amount of them, during an MMS Protocol, so that you're able to discern what the Protocol's impact is.

Maybe others here will have similar experiences with your issue. The only effect of a MMS Protocol I can imagine, on any organ, and gland, is the release of toxines, but not likely an effect on iodine sensitivity. 

As it is, I truly don't feel that I'm qualified to suggest a treatment, and I certainly can't share any experience with treating thyroid issues.  I do suggest you're seeing a therapist that is specialized in thyroid issues, when that's not the case now. I hope this is helpful in some way.
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Thyroid interaction? 30 Mar 2023 18:18 #78162

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Thank you so much, Mary P, for your insightful response. 
I couldn't figure out how to modify my original post, but I wanted to say that so far even on a very low dose (starting protocol) I had six or seven symptom improvements during the time I've been taking MMS, including improvements in energy, mood, candida, and one symptom which improved (bladder), I'd been working on for about a year with other treatments, but the MMS worked better than anything else.

To clarify, I have tracked thyroid in the past with several practitioners and had the nodule checked for cancer which was negative.

I had a similar thought that the thyroid swelling could also be a toxin response. It has been better since taking a break. I think I will wait until everything is back to normal and start again at a very low dose. Yes, I do have Jim's book and am familiar with the testimonials, but I will read through them some more as well, thanks for the thought!

The swelling was in the front, not the sides -- I believe the sides would be lymph?

That's also a good point about the dairy, as I don't usually do a mainstream brand of cheese and milk like that, and who knows what else was in them.

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Thyroid interaction? 30 Mar 2023 18:38 #78163

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Also I did check the testimonials and there are a bunch about thyroid issues improving, so this is encouraging!

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Thyroid interaction? 26 Jun 2023 18:33 #79174

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Follow up on this subject of thyroid swelling -- I've discovered after some tracking that while the mms has seemed to increase swelling, so do other types of detox. An endocrinologist did an ultrasound and said the thyroid swelling was not a problem. 
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