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LaKidd wrote:

Thanks Dawna! I can say that pain has been my guide in this process. I have learned to "modulate" the pain, that is, I can increase it or decrease it just by changing the number of DMSO drops in the MMS1. The pain happens only where I know I have tumors for sure, so I agree with you. When you feel the pain then you know the MMS is hitting the mark as you say. My oncology nurses have all said that it is normal to feel pain at times when a tumor is dying. I guess many people who start on MMS are already in pain so it helps kill their cancer pain. Breast cancer is not normally anything a woman can feel until the tumors are quite large. Yet when breast cancer spreads to the bones as mine has it does not take a large lesion to produce intense pain. Hope your pain is long gone!

Have you used black salve on the primary cancer tumor on your breast ?

Read this thread as somewhere in it I post the salve I use. However, in your case, using the salve most likely will be quite painful. It sure will kill that tumor, and it will kill it within 24 to 48 hours for sure. Your best bet is getting advice from Greg and Cathryn Caton on the correct use of their salve. If your tumor is any larger than the size of an almond, it will require some good pain killers for a week or two. As the tumors came out of my body I used medical grade manuka honey on it. However, the Caton's also make an excellent product for this called Dragon's Blood, which I have also used. Do not force the tumor out, let it come out on it's own. When it does there will a hole, but that hole will be sealed with healthy new pink skin. I never had any pus, it never smelled, and it healed very well. There will be a deep red scar, that in time turns pink, then white, then it fades away. In all 21 spots where my tumors came out my skin is new, smooth, and very healthy. Proof of the Big Pharma and the Medical Establishment trying to defeat any cure for cancer can be found on the Dr. Oz show. In the spring of 2017 Oz did a show on black salve. I was using black salve at that same time. It was taking cancer out of my body, which PET scans confirmed. Yet Oz was lying and saying how horrible this salve is, how it leaves terrible scars, etc. What a farce and a shame!

No, as I do not have access to the pain killers. However, many woman have. You can see a lot of photos and testimonials by following the links at herbhealers.com the site having the photos and testimonials is altcancer.net. If all else fails I will just do it, pain and all. However, my largest tumor was in my armpit.. That was the size of a lemon cut in half. yet the MMS has reduced it so small it is now hard to find. My primary breast tumor is also getting smaller and thinner. I know if I have to I can kill both of them with the salve for sure. But now that I know the salve works I want to see if the MMS will also work on it too. I have tried many other protocols - Budwig and many more. None worked.

LaKidd wrote:

No, as I do not have access to the pain killers. However, many woman have. You can see a lot of photos and testimonials by following the links at herbhealers.com the site having the photos and testimonials is altcancer.net. If all else fails I will just do it, pain and all. However, my largest tumor was in my armpit.. That was the size of a lemon cut in half. yet the MMS has reduced it so small it is now hard to find. My primary breast tumor is also getting smaller and thinner. I know if I have to I can kill both of them with the salve for sure. But now that I know the salve works I want to see if the MMS will also work on it too. I have tried many other protocols - Budwig and many more. None worked.

So you have used black salve only on your smaller tumors ? Right?

That is correct. My tumors where not big as I could kill them and remove them before they got large. Even my primary tumor was never larger than a very big almond. The tumor under my arm pit was at one time the size of a lemon cut in half lengthwise, so yes that one was large. I did not use the salve on it for two reasons. First is that it was not doing any harm. Second, it would have been impossible for me to work my normal 12 to 14 hour a day job if I had used the salve on it. This tumor is now so small I have a hard time finding it. The only thing shrinking it is the MMS1, MMS2, and the DMSO. So now I have no need to use the salve. My primary tumor is also shrinking, and while I could use the salve on it, I will not at this time as it seems the MMS protocols are working on it. I have seen numerous photographs of both women and men who have used black salve on large tumors, as in the size of a baseball. While certainly very effective it was for them, according to what they wrote, a slow and painful process, but it saved their lives. I did not learn about MMS until long after I had removed numerous small tumors with the black salve. While I have no way of knowing, I can suspect that the people who used salve on large tumors most likely did not know about MMS, or if they did they did not want to try it. It has been extremely difficult at work to stop every 30 minutes to every 60 minutes to take a dose of MMS. I had to take all my doses at my job, which was driving an 80,000 pound truck in a gravel mine. Yet this was preferable to having to deal with the pain and other issues I would have had to face had I used salve instead of MMS.

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Can't thank you enough LA Kidd, I've book marked this site, and I think this is the product you have had such success with, it's available in a larger size, the instructions on this page are valuable and certainly match your experience. It's hard to try these things on our own, so your tenacity is very much appreciated.

Dawna wrote:

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Can't thank you enough LA Kidd, I've book marked this site, and I think this is the product you have had such success with, it's available in a larger size, the instructions on this page are valuable and certainly match your experience. It's hard to try these things on our own, so your tenacity is very much appreciated.

You're welcome Dawna. Many have helped me, time for me to try giving back. Yes, that is the one. There are two types and both come in two sizes - small and larger. The only difference between the two is that the Deep Tissue has added DMSO, that is the only difference. The DMSO draws the salve deeper into tissue.

Hi again.... in googling around the different products they sell with the black salve I found this which is another remedy, on another alt med site, here it is shortened:

".....This cancer treatment is similar in principle to Insulin Potentiation Therapy (IPT). IPT treatment consists of giving doses of insulin to a fasting patient sufficient to lower blood sugar into the 50 mg/dl. In a normal person, when you take in sugar the insulin levels go up to meet the need of getting that sugar into the cells. In IPT they are artificially injecting insulin to deplete the blood of all sugar then injecting the lower doses of toxic chemo drugs when the blood sugar is driven down to the lowest possible value. During the low peak, it is said that the receptors are more sensitive and take on medications more rapidly and in higher amounts.

The bicarbonate of soda and maple syrup treatment works in reverse to IPT. Dr. Tullio Simoncini acknowledges that cancer cells gobbles up sugar so when you encourage the intake of sugar it’s like sending in a Trojan horse. The sugar is not going to end up encouraging the further growth of the cancer colonies because the baking soda is going to kill the cells before they have a chance to grow. Instead of artificially manipulating insulin and thus forcefully driving down blood sugar levels to then inject toxic chemo agents we combine the sugar with the bicarbonate and present it to the cancer cells, which at first are going to love the present. But not for long!

This treatment is a combination of pure, 100% maple syrup and baking soda and was first reported on the Cancer Tutor site. When mixed and heated together, the maple syrup and baking soda bind together. The maple syrup targets cancer cells (which consume 15 times more glucose than normal cells) and the baking soda, which is dragged into the cancer cell by the maple syrup, being very alkaline forces a rapid shift in pH killing the cell. The actual formula is to mix one part baking soda with three parts (pure, 100%) maple syrup in a small saucepan. Stir briskly and heat the mixture for 5 minutes. Take 1 teaspoon daily, is what is suggested by Cancer Tutor but one could probably do this several times a day. "

This is so simple! One teaspoon a day of something anyone can buy at the grocery store?!!! And it sure sounds like it would work. It didn't say if it needed refrigeration, so I don't know, I wouldn't think it would hurt it one way or another...

Dawna wrote:

Hi again.... in googling around the different products they sell with the black salve I found this which is another remedy, on another alt med site, here it is shortened:

".....This cancer treatment is similar in principle to Insulin Potentiation Therapy (IPT). IPT treatment consists of giving doses of insulin to a fasting patient sufficient to lower blood sugar into the 50 mg/dl. In a normal person, when you take in sugar the insulin levels go up to meet the need of getting that sugar into the cells. In IPT they are artificially injecting insulin to deplete the blood of all sugar then injecting the lower doses of toxic chemo drugs when the blood sugar is driven down to the lowest possible value. During the low peak, it is said that the receptors are more sensitive and take on medications more rapidly and in higher amounts.

Yes, I did read about this in the past. Did not try it as I would not have access to the needed insulin, plus I have decided not to use chemo in any form.

The bicarbonate of soda and maple syrup treatment works in reverse to IPT. Dr. Tullio Simoncini acknowledges that cancer cells gobbles up sugar so when you encourage the intake of sugar it’s like sending in a Trojan horse. The sugar is not going to end up encouraging the further growth of the cancer colonies because the baking soda is going to kill the cells before they have a chance to grow. Instead of artificially manipulating insulin and thus forcefully driving down blood sugar levels to then inject toxic chemo agents we combine the sugar with the bicarbonate and present it to the cancer cells, which at first are going to love the present. But not for long!

This treatment is a combination of pure, 100% maple syrup and baking soda and was first reported on the Cancer Tutor site. When mixed and heated together, the maple syrup and baking soda bind together. The maple syrup targets cancer cells (which consume 15 times more glucose than normal cells) and the baking soda, which is dragged into the cancer cell by the maple syrup, being very alkaline forces a rapid shift in pH killing the cell. The actual formula is to mix one part baking soda with three parts (pure, 100%) maple syrup in a small saucepan. Stir briskly and heat the mixture for 5 minutes. Take 1 teaspoon daily, is what is suggested by Cancer Tutor but one could probably do this several times a day. "

This is so simple! One teaspoon a day of something anyone can buy at the grocery store?!!! And it sure sounds like it would work. It didn't say if it needed refrigeration, so I don't know, I wouldn't think it would hurt it one way or another...

This baking soda protocol was the very first thing I tried and it did not work. I had read extensively about it. Like so many other alternative cancer treatments there are several ways to use it. While I'm sure it has worked for some it did not work for me. I think might work well for one or two small tumors, but not for people like me who are diagnosed from day one as stage four. Once cancer spreads to the bone you have a tough battle ahead from what I have read and learned. Also I did spend many days reading on Cancer Tudor all the different protocols. At the time I did I never saw anything about MMS and Jim Humble there. Further, Cancer Tudor said in their article on the use of black salve NOT to use it on the spine. Had I followed that advise I would be dead by now, or close to it. This is the big challenge with any and all ALT cancer treatment programs I found. Who do you believe, and what do you believe? I also paid the money to consult with one of the "experts" from the Cancer Tudor site, and this person was wrong about several very basic points on Gerson and other protocols. Yet it was this same person who told me about black salve and where to get it. So without that advice I would also be dead now or close to it. So there you have it. Same person was very wrong and very right. I was lucky in that I followed the right advise, not the wrong advise. This is the dilemma we all face in trying to pick and ALT program!