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Safety Guidelines 18 Jul 2014 20:32 #46326

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Steve has also previously recommended long term storage of sealed containers of sodium chlorite in the freezer.
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Safety Guidelines 15 Jan 2015 21:53 #48826

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Thanks Steve,

I appreciate having found this as I have been surprised, for example, by the casual mention in videos and written copy that CDS (Chlorine Dioxide Solution) can explode under certain conditions - and yet little has been expanded upon to guide the average user on how to handle it properly in process of taking it.

As someone who would like to take CDS and recommend it responsibly to others, could you please offer clear guidance on the safety of handling CDS in the way that a user might normally handle it?

SPECIFICALLY, if I have a 4oz bottle of CDS, whether purchased or made, at approx. 3000ppm (as per protocol), I understand that it should be kept in the fridge. These further questions arise:

1. If one wants to mix a batch to take with them for the day, such as a mix of 8ml of CDS in 22 to 32oz of water, and put it in a glass jar - how much sun exposure and/or heat exposure during the day might cause an explosion?

1b. Or would such a diluted solution not be of concern for explosions?

1c. And what would such an explosion look like? ie. the lid might blow off; the glass bottle would explode shooting glass a few feet, or 50 feet; the explosion in a hand might permanently damage that hand, etc?

2. If a 4oz glass amber bottle of CDS at 3000ppm were left out in the heat and sun to the point of exploding, what are we talking about with regard to the degree of an explosion?

3. I put about 5 drops of CDS in a 4oz size amber bottle for a healing practitioner who muscle tests for patient remedies. If that were left out of the fridge all day in a room that was exposed to sun and in a comfortable room temperature, would there be concern of explosion, and again, what would such an explosion look like?

Any other comments as you get the gist of what I am asking about - guidance around the explosiveness of CDS per protocol as used by someone not knowledgable about safety with CDS.

Thanks so much Steve.

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Safety Guidelines 21 Jan 2015 07:33 #48858

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fourfingerz wrote:

Learning to follow protocols is important - but understanding safety is just as important, read Steve's post:

g2cforum.org/index.php/list/experimental-protocol-for-research/28675-safety-guidelines#46313
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Yes, that's pretty much sure.

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Safety Guidelines 24 Feb 2015 19:58 #49132

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I posted a question on this thread and never received any response at all. Instead, fourfingerz keeps posting nothing on it, triggering an email to me as I am subscribed hoping someone might actually respond to the only question here. Fourfingerz why do you keep posting nothing but a link to this post?

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Safety Guidelines 24 Feb 2015 20:32 #49135

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Yunus, Martin bumps this thread to keep this important topic on page one so we will be reminded to heed what it says.

Steve does not often read the forum as he is too busy.

CDS is safe if kept in solution. It is the chlorine dioxide gas that can be explosive. It tends to stay in solution when kept below 50F, so that is why it is best to keep it in a fridge. Placing a bottle of CDS in direct sunlight is not recommended. A daily bottle of CDS contains much less CLO2 that a stock solution of CDS. I doubt a daily bottle of CDS in direct sunshine would be a problem.

The only reported bangs are from people making CDS using the heating method and why the overnight method is suggested.
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Safety Guidelines 24 Aug 2015 12:44 #50121

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fourfingerz wrote:
Learning to follow protocols is important - but understanding safety is just as important, read Steve's post:

g2cforum.org/index.php/list/experimental-protocol-for-research/28675-safety-guidelines#46313
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Safety Guidelines 01 Sep 2015 06:59 #50161

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Ya its true. To follow protocols is important.

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Safety Guidelines 02 Sep 2015 06:01 #50165

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what push the trigger of an explosion is a "esoteric science". only a small group of reasons are known. exist a lot "unknown" and others are simple "magical reasons". you can read the MSDS de some chemicals or books in lab security and convince for yourself.

for exemple I get a liter of water in a lake in Pirineus, I put this glass bottle in the fridge, after 1 year o so the bottle exploded! not with a big boom but I find pieces of glass around, uh? pure water from the mountains exploding? :) any idiot can say this is because putrefaction from organic matter started, not empty space in the bottle... pure idiotism, the bottle have empty space, no organic matter in the water, no freezing...

if a bottle is put in the sun can explode or not, depends of the season of the year, the sun force, clouds or not, the quality of the bottle... if you cut cheap glass bottles you can see the interior surface forming spots of magnifying glasses, water drops also work like magnifying glasses... and so on!

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Safety Guidelines 04 Feb 2016 23:39 #50963

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fourfingerz wrote:
Learning to follow protocols is important - but understanding safety is just as important, read Steve's post:

g2cforum.org/index.php/list/experimental-protocol-for-research/28675-safety-guidelines#46313

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