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Larry, I ran a test and the results look good, if my thinking and math is correct. I ran it past Scott just now and he agrees.

What I did was to make CDH in a 1 fl oz (33ml) glass bottle with a Polyseal cap so there was no gas leakage.

8.5ml SC + 8.5ml 4% HCL + 16ml DW = 33ml total
Activation time was 15 minutes, then 1 hour in the fridge before opening the bottle.

As you can see, I did not add 5 times 33ml additional water after the activation period as CDH Two Bottle Method calls for. I left out the additional 165ml of water. So, we have a much stronger CDH solution in just 33ml. Compared to mixing SC and 4HCL only, there was no heating felt on the bottle and just a hint of gas releasing when the bottle was first opened. The color started out a light orange and progressed to medium orange. Will watch for any color change over the next few days.

This CDH produced 0.93mg CLO2/drop of the 33ml CDH. If you can fit 15 drops in a capsule that would give you 14mg of CLO2 per capsule. That is quite a lot of CLO2. I take a 20mg CDH dose once or twice a day.

My activation time tests some time ago for a MMS 3 drop 4HCL 60 second open container activated dose, showed about 2.6mg CLO2. Who knows how much more CLO2 might be generated after the MMS 3 drop dose is ingested. If twice, then the 3 drop dose produced 5.2mg CLO2.

If that is true, then about 6 drops of this CDH might be equal to a 3 drop MMS 4HCL 60 second activated dose.

Rev Ray:

I added the Coconut Water last weekend and feel much better, Yesterday have a little nausea and start eating crackers but reading your post you talk about DMSO, You are talking about DMSO 99% or the one dilute to 70%?

Using the caps add the DMSO at the moment I make the Caps. Add three drops of DMSO?

Wow JB. Thanks! I'm taking a day off from MMS today to let my system recover but I can't wait to try your CDH capsule formula.

I've been using tsp's to measure (1tsp = 5 ml). Do you think it would be okay to simply duplicate your 2 to 1 ratio of DW to the other ingrediants? That would make a batch of 20ml in the 33ml bottle.

My HCL is 4.6%. Is that worth worrying about?

Also, do you think this CDH would be good until it's used up?

Thank you.

Hi GJP
My thought is to activate MMS and after wait period of 60 seconds 20 seconds or ten minutes...
You decide, then I add DMSO and place in cap.
You can mix MMS in cap and add DMSO after wait period if you wait only 20-30 seconds otherwise the risk of melting capsule becomes an issue.
I use 99% DMSO, almost any grade is acceptable. DMSO reduces MMS potency so the protocol is 3 MMS 3 activator and 1 DMSO.
I mix 5+5 wait, add 5 fill cap swallow.
Each of us must gauge what works best for us.


Coconut water, thank you.

Hi Larry.

I have made CDH using a teaspoon measuring spoon, too!
Using a 1 teaspoon and 1/2 teaspoon I would make capsule CDH this way:

Add 2 tsp DW to a 1 fl oz (30ml) glass bottle
Add 1.5 tsp SC
Add 1.5 tsp 4.6% HCL
Fill to top with more DW

That would be 10ml + 7.5ml + 7.5ml = 25ml + additional 5+ml of DW to fill the bottle full.
Activate about 15 minutes then put the bottle in a fridge for an hour or so.
You are done!

You should be close to the basic recipe 2+1+1 and a little more water will be compensated by your 4.6% vs 4% HCL. Fill the bottle as full as you can to keep the air space to a minimum. Past testing has shown a 25% increase in CLO2 when the bottle is full compared to half full. I think we are forcing the CLO2 into solution rather than let it outgas and escape when the bottle is opened.

The color of the CDH I made yesterday looks the same today, so it is more stable than the original CDH capsule recipe of only SC and 4HCL. When I made my morning CDH drink just now, there was a slight outgassing when the bottle was opened. I think this CDH will last a while. Time will tell.

Hi JB - thanks. Off to make it now. tomorrow I'll take 8 caps of 6 drops, 1 cap each 15 minutes.

I really like JB's formula for CDH capsules. I did p115 this morning using 6 drops in each capsule. I intuitively felt like I'd had enough after taking 6 capsules (one every 15 minutes). Tomorrow I'm going to reduce to 5 drops and probably take all 8 doses.

Sid, you asked about the honey method. I checked Jim's book and didn't see it - it was referenced on the web site - under protocol 4000 at the end of step 1-referring to MMS2 without capsules

The Honey Technique ... ... is for those who do not have capsules or who cannot take them. Try to get a jar of raw honey because if there is any added preservative, it won't work. Normally, they don't add preservatives, but who knows what they will do next and preservatives will cancel the value of the calcium hypochlorite. But if no raw honey is available, a good quality brand from a supermarket should be OK.
Be sure to check the label to see that no preservative or vitamin C has been added. Natural vitamin C already in the honey is not a problem. Honey doesn't need any preservative and it will last for years or even decades by itself, but many people who deal with honey do not understand that.
Put the honey in the refrigerator. It is absolutely necessary that the honey be at least as cold as a good refrigerator. Then measure out the correct amount of calcium hypochlorite for your bi-hourly dose and mix it into a very small amount of very cold honey about the same size as the pile of hypochlorite that you will take. Do not allow any water or moisture to mix in. Once you have mixed it, immediately put it on the front tip of a teaspoon and take it. Have a glass of water there to wash it down.
It must go down immediately as it will taste terrible when it begins to warm up.
Drink at least one glassful of water. If you do this right, there will be absolutely no problem and no taste.
Warning
Do not try to use honey at room temperature. It will not work because the honey will begin a reaction with the calcium hypochlorite immediately and the taste will keep you from getting it down your throat. If you do not have a refrigerator, buy some ice and put the honey jar in ice water. Or better still, put a small amount of honey in a plastic bag and put that in the ice water. It will get chilled much faster that way.
The honey must be cold when used.
The water is important. The 200 lb. person, 160 lb. person, and the 100 lb. person should drink at least 8 ounces of water with the honey and MMS2 dose. See above for the amount of water that should be taken with each dose.
For the procedure for babies, please see www.jimhumble.biz

glenda

Rev ray - you have been very good at helping me to understand some things, so please can you help me. I am trying very hard to understand all this. I have read through the entire MMSO topic to date.

1. You have mentioned the DMSO, which I have always used. I have seen in 2 places in protocols on web site, that
a. DMSO is to be added right after activation of 20 sec.
b. DMSO is to be added after waiting the 3 min. just before you drink it.
Which is correct? Does it really matter as long as you drink it after the 3 mins??

2. ACTIVATION: I've read that you & others have said activation should be 60 sec and not 20 sec. Is the reason for doing it for 60 sec to decrease problems with the stomach??

3. Abbreviations being used: I think it was you that suggested that maybe somewhere on the forum, all the abbreviations used could be shown and say what they mean -- has that been done, or will it maybe? This topic has used several abbreviations that I don't have any idea what they mean. Should I write them all down and then a topic on that, so maybe others who, like me, are trying to learn can
know what everyone is talking about??

Thank you in advance, for your help in this matter.